It's just over a year since I launched myself headlong into the wonderful world of pop culture design and I soon learned one valuable lesson - if you have a good idea for a piece, you can guarentee someone else has had the same idea, or very soon will. It's inevitable of course, by it's very nature working in the realms of pop culture means dealing with existing ideas. The trick is to put a spin on that idea, to take it somewhere new, interesting or just plain amusing. This leaves alot of room for overlap, and in some cases the inevitable repeating of ideas.
Case in point is one of my first designs, a Batman/Harry Potter mash up which played upon Gary Oldmans presence in both franchises, but mostly Jokers 'Why so serious?' quote mashed with Oldman's character in the Potter franchise Sirius Black. I soon discovered this idea had already been done - alot! Where all of these designs stealing from each other? No, of course not, it's simply a gag that would become apparent to anyone who is a fan of both franchises, which given the box office success of them means alot of people.
I've done other designs, only to discover similar designs which seemed to appear at almost the same time. Why? Because creative minds who have gravitated towards pop culture in the first place are inevitably wired into the same wavelength. So far it has been commonly accepted amongst my fellow artists that a good idea can just hit different people at the same time. My Back to the Future watch design is a good example. One of my favourite artists, WinterArtwork, came up with a very similar design at exactly the same time.
As I recall these designs popped up within a day or so of each other, illustrating perfectly how two nerds can have the same idea at the same time. The fact that his was Doctor Who themed further illustrates the point - it was the core idea which we both came up with and we then dealt with it in different ways, but all the time it was a matter of great minds thinking alike. A good artist knows this, a good artist respects this and most importantly a good artist respects his fellow creative. Which is why I was disappointed when someone I would consider a good artist told me that my Anchorman inspired design from yesterday was a 'Rip Off'. They never emailed me to ask if I was aware of their design, they didn't make a post on their own blog raising their concern that a similar idea had arisen - no, they came onto my blog, typed the words 'RIP OFF' and left. Not cool.
So let's just take a quick look, and see if we can identify the theft, CSI San Diego style.
First lets take the similarities into consideration -
1- Anchorman - both designs are riffs on the movie Anchorman, by all accounts a very popular movie, so we can safely chalk that one up to coincidence.
2 - 'News Team Assemble' - this line actually appears in the movie, an obvious parody/call out to the rallying cry of Marvels Avengers team.
So I think it's safe to say there is only one obvious conclusion to be reached - we BOTH ripped off Will Ferrel and Adam McKay!
In all seriousness though, I'd like to think that the layout alone shows that I'm not some 'hack' who steals other peoples ideas. I have over a hundred designs on sale at various places around the internet, so why I would suddenly decide to 'rip off' a fellow artist makes no sense. It disrespects the artist and it disrespects the people who invest in your work and have faith in your ideas.
I work hard to push my ideas, and get the most out of them where I can. To illustrate this, here's a rough breakdown of my thought process on the News Teamers design-
1- I was approached in June to participate in a Judd Apatow themed art show. Though the show fell through, the idea of an Anchorman design had taken hold! I wanted to create an Anchorman comic cover. The movie is set firmly in a bygone era, so a vintage approach was definitely needed, an old school Silver Age feel.
2 - Several titles where obvious choices - A Fantastic Four parody would exploit the Channel 4 News Team element. The Uncanny X-Men could translate very easily into The Uncanny Anchormen. However, the 'News Team Assemble' was just too good, and tied the comic to the movie alot better so it was an Avengers cover I setteled on.
3 -Now I needed to choose a cover to parody. The obvious choice was Kirbys classic cover for Issue 16, we could have a nice bold image of Ron and include a wide range of supporting characters including Baxter, Ed, Wes Mantooth and all the other newscasters from the awesome fight scene. However I wanted something even more iconic, and Issue 4 ticked all the boxes, especially as Ron utters the 'Assemble' line after he is asked to return to his Anchorman status. This ties neatly into the 'Captain America Lives Again' theme of issue 4.
4 - Next I need to allocate characters to each member of the News Team. Ron as Cap is a no brainer, Fantana makes a good Thor as his man on the street role means the hammer can be swapped for his mic, and Brick makes an obvious 'big lug' so Giant Man it is. This left Iron Man, whose flying may have posed a problem but thankfully Brick is the kind of character whose sudden ability to fly isn't too questionable once you know he's killed a man with a trident.
None of this thought appears to have gone into the 'original' design, which instead is a straight up comic of the Anchorman himself. I'd like to think that my attention to detail, pushing the concept further, would also illustrate to my fellow artist that I wasn't ripping him off but simply running with what was, in my opinion, a fun but obvious idea. Another creative friend of mine has also encountered similar issues with this artist regarding another design, so hopefully this post helps to illustrate that when you choose to work in the realms of popular culture, an awareness of the word 'popular' is paramount.
Bit rich, laying sole claim to a loose idea that in turn relies directly on the creations of others. He'd be as well leaving "RIP OFF" posts on all work of this nature - his own included.
ReplyDeleteWell done for keeping the heed!
Cheers Dwayne, you taught me everything I know about keeping my cool and stating the facts. And nipple piercings...
DeleteThis is an excellent explanation, Nik. Kudos to you for being honest and for letting us in on your creative process. More went into it thn I ever realized. That's why you'll always be my favorite shirt artist. <3
ReplyDeleteAs always Heather, you're too kind! Glad you liked this peak into my creative process, I may have just discovered a use for this blog thanks to you!
DeleteWorking in the horror t-shirt business I can reassure the world that many times companies come up with similar designs at the same time. Hell, Ben and I came up with "I'm loving IT" only to see a few days later the brilliant Nik Holmes had just come up with it himself. The SAME EXACT idea right around the same time, on two different continents! I was just jealous that we wouldn't have a chance to do it haha
ReplyDeleteAnd you're 1000% right Nik- we all pull from the same well and the same sources- it is not beyond belief to think that we will have similar or even exact ideas from time to time.
Lastly, I enclose this link to a Freddy In Space piece regarding filmic similarities and I think this answers completely to what you are saying...though I still deep down believe that there's no way on God's green earth that James Gunn had never heard of NOTC before Slither came out haha. But the point remains the same! Even Fred Dekker said he was accused of ripping off old sci-fi films with NOTC. But, I digress- http://www.freddyinspace.com/2011/03/putting-this-bad-slug-to-rest.html
Nik, your fans know how talented you are and we know you'd never rip someone off. You don't need to prove it to anyone. Viva La Holmes!
-Kristy (Fright Rags)
As always Kristy you come here with everything I'd expect from you - a wealth of experience, kind words and just a pinch of our good buddy Johnny Squires! And thanks for posting that article, you're right, it illustrates perfectly how drawing inspiration from the same well can lead to the unholiest of coincidences! Interesting to hear Dekker was accused of ripping though, even when I was a young 'un I saw NotC as a love letter to old monster movies of yesteryear.
DeleteAs far as rip offs go, what about all the folks who rifted on your fabulous Kitty Skull shirt. The fact that I happen to own both your Kitty skull (which i get the most compliments on - out of 50+ tshirts) and two other variants... am i somehow supported theft?
ReplyDeleteNO!
STFU and GBTW
Cheers Gregory, thanks for the support! However I must mention my skull kitty was a direct homage to HareBraineds superior kitty skull design and kudos to him for sparking the idea in my brain.
DeleteIf a few different people add 2 and 2 a lot of them are going to come up with the number 4 independently.
ReplyDeleteI once wrote a script about secret government agents being the ones in protests who turn it violent in an effort to get public protest banned.
Two days after I sent the script to the BBC writers room Spooks used the same plot! That's a pretty fast turn around!
Well put Nigel. Had no idea you did writing without pictures too! How very grown up!
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